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	<title>Comments on: Los Angeles Budget Challenge: When Surveys Won&#8217;t Take No For An Answer</title>
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		<title>By: Regulation of the Day 118: Unlicensed Dogs &#171; Inertia Wins!</title>
		<link>http://www.intellitics.com/blog/2010/01/07/los-angeles-budget-challenge-when-surveys-wont-take-no-for-an-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-2399</link>
		<dc:creator>Regulation of the Day 118: Unlicensed Dogs &#171; Inertia Wins!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] answer is simple: money. LA is looking at a $400 million budget deficit this year. At $15 per license, the city estimates it will make $3.6 million from full compliance. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] answer is simple: money. LA is looking at a $400 million budget deficit this year. At $15 per license, the city estimates it will make $3.6 million from full compliance. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Los Angeles Budget Challenge: Feedback from the Mayor&#8217;s Office &#171; Intellitics, Inc.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Los Angeles Budget Challenge: Feedback from the Mayor&#8217;s Office &#171; Intellitics, Inc.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] angeles, budgeting, los, participatory.     A number of people commented on last month&#8217;s post about the Los Angeles Budget Challenge online and offline, and most seemed to share my concerns regarding the survey design.  Shortly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] angeles, budgeting, los, participatory.     A number of people commented on last month&#8217;s post about the Los Angeles Budget Challenge online and offline, and most seemed to share my concerns regarding the survey design.  Shortly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed the same thing completely separately today. In addition, the City spent a lot of money upgrading to the newer electronic parking meters. Do you think we will be paid back when we privatize?

There is some sloppy math as well: $25.0M revenue is generated by **doubling** the Stormwater Pollution Abatement Charge. AND, $25.0M revenue is generated by **tripling** the same charge. HUH?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed the same thing completely separately today. In addition, the City spent a lot of money upgrading to the newer electronic parking meters. Do you think we will be paid back when we privatize?</p>
<p>There is some sloppy math as well: $25.0M revenue is generated by **doubling** the Stormwater Pollution Abatement Charge. AND, $25.0M revenue is generated by **tripling** the same charge. HUH?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the total maximum volume of items 1-11 is only $373 million. In order to get the budget balanced, participants are required to agree at least with the &quot;small&quot; option of $100 million in new revenue from public private partnerships as proposed under item 12.

Sorry if that was unclear from the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the total maximum volume of items 1-11 is only $373 million. In order to get the budget balanced, participants are required to agree at least with the &#8220;small&#8221; option of $100 million in new revenue from public private partnerships as proposed under item 12.</p>
<p>Sorry if that was unclear from the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

I&#039;ve not reviewed the site extensively, but if I do the math from the post, the game includes $573 in deficit reduction ($293 cuts/savings + $280 in income increases).  That would mean participants could say no to this item but would have to accept virtually all of the other cuts/savings and increases (having to find $400 out of $473).

This, then, raises a slew of other questions....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not reviewed the site extensively, but if I do the math from the post, the game includes $573 in deficit reduction ($293 cuts/savings + $280 in income increases).  That would mean participants could say no to this item but would have to accept virtually all of the other cuts/savings and increases (having to find $400 out of $473).</p>
<p>This, then, raises a slew of other questions&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.intellitics.com/blog/2010/01/07/los-angeles-budget-challenge-when-surveys-wont-take-no-for-an-answer/comment-page-1/#comment-1760</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, haven&#039;t contacted them. But maybe that&#039;s a good idea. I&#039;ll point them to this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, haven&#8217;t contacted them. But maybe that&#8217;s a good idea. I&#8217;ll point them to this post.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Los Angeles Budget Challenge: When Surveys Won’t Take No For An Answer « Intellitics -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention Los Angeles Budget Challenge: When Surveys Won’t Take No For An Answer « Intellitics -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Tiago Peixoto, Intellitics, Inc.. Intellitics, Inc. said: New post: &quot;Los Angeles Budget Challenge: When Surveys Won’t Take No For An Answer&quot; -- http://bit.ly/4uSNBW #gov20 #edem [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Tiago Peixoto, Intellitics, Inc.. Intellitics, Inc. said: New post: &quot;Los Angeles Budget Challenge: When Surveys Won’t Take No For An Answer&quot; &#8212; <a href="http://bit.ly/4uSNBW" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/4uSNBW</a> #gov20 #edem [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tiago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you e-mailed them?</description>
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